Thought I'd pick this up again on a different track. I'm hoping to start Basic this year with a modest CGM Sukhoi. I got out flying today and I believe I was entering the spin "honestly" but the rotation speed seemed very slow. However, I was using rudder only and no aileron. Next time, I'll add the ailerons after the spin has started. One big problem I have is nerve. It seems like I don't have enough altitude when flying my regular "box" altitude. Two full spins seems to take too much altitude. I wonder how strict the spin judging will be in Basic.