I ordered mine last November and yes I ordered it from ES the work is worth waiting for I will be running a ZDZ40 and that's why I'm a little worried about the horns Ed says there is a hard point behind the spar in the aileron's but know mention of how big it is, thats why I'm inquiring about the Chip Hyde horns. I have been flying gas for 20 years now as well as pattern and I know from experience that the gas set up will more stress on that horn set up. The elevators will be easy to set up beacuse you can get at everthing the ailerons are as you know all sealed up and I hate to start cutting things up and find out that the hard point is to small.f3a05 is that 80 hours on a gas set up or glow?