ORIGINAL: Pattern_is_Fun
Hey Mike,
I'm just checking back in here, and not meaning to single out your response, but I will give my opinion on your comments:
You state... Can't you just see a player in a baseball game, after being given a home run on a ball that actually went outside the foul pole walking up to the umpire and saying "excuse me ump, I have to be honest. That was a foul ball not a home run."
--- you miss the point, the 'call', fair or foul, is like saying, was that a snap or not.. and we don't question these decisions. However, if you flew an outside loop and the maneuver called for an inside loop, would you want to be scored on it? There are examples above of similar things. If your answer is' "yes, I would take the score the judge gave me", then why try to fly precision pattern?
You state: Pattern is a sport.
--- let's be more precise - it's a sport of precision, we all try to fly 10's, keep the "Z" distance, flow, stay in the box, ... and when we make a gross error, and it's not caught by the judges, do you want to take the score? If your answer is yes, you should re-evaluate what you are trying to do. Fool the judges? Take a trophy from someone who did it correct - and you did not. A hollow victory at best I think,
You state: I am a church going guy too and all about honesty, not that is has anything to do with pattern flying
--- so the next time you fly a the wrong maneuver, tell the judges. It actually has a lot to do with pattern, and life. Want to get away with a score you don't deserve, fine with me, but I would not respect you much for doing it. (not that you would care what I think, but I wonder what your friends think!)
You state: not everyone is going to be honest, so just do the best you can, let the judges do the best they can and let the chips fall. Good calls and bad calls are just part of sports.
--- I don't think you get it, we can make the sport better, make the judges better, and as an end result, make our flying better. If these things are not of interest to you, fine. They are not of interest to many. Are you saying, "not everyone is going to be honest" .. so I don't have to either?
Scott
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I agree 100% with everything you say in a perfect world. I really do. But for what you are saying to work, EVERYONE would have to do it. In any competition, the objective is to win and the judges are charged with making sure that we stay within the rules. How many superbowls have been lost because of a bad call. How many time have you exceeded the speed limit and not called in the the police when you got home to tell on yourself? This is no different. If you
re your last question,,,, My implication is that most people are not forthcoming about their mistakes. Part of what you learn in pattern is
1. Do not make mistakes,
2. If you do make mistakes, do them in such a way that no one can see it.
Making corrections where no one can see it is a big part of the sport.
Now, as far as if you fly an inside loop instead of an outside loop should you tell on yourself?? I dunno, my conscience says yes and if everyone did it YES.. Have you made me personally think about it?yes. We each have to deal with this sortof stuff on a personal level. Realize that what you are asking people to do goes way beyond pattern. Its calling on the integrity of men in general to be totally open and honest in everything they do no matter what the cost. Sounds like something I have read in "Book" somewhere. [8D]