Rusty. thank you for your common sense and comments, all too offen these forums are used to bash people and products. none of which is helpful to anyone at all, and it always seems that there is someone waiting to pounce on somebody he dosn't even know and kick him when he is down just for the fun of it.......well my thoughts on crashes like this are the opposite, I had hoped to find a legitimate reason for for a well known popular turbine flaming out at a critical time for no apparent reason, resulting in a monumental loss to me, and a danger to life and limb..... I was able to place together all of the electronics from the Lightning and read the engine data terminal , all of the last flight details like duration of engine run , max rpm , min rpm, etc etc are stored in the ECU and i have downloaded all of that and sent it to Bob Wilcox at Jetcat USa for his interpretation of the last flight engine parameters... I will not comment till he has had a chance to read them.....But i will reiterate that there was no white smoke, that would indicate there was no unburnt fuel passing through the turbine and the last recorded rpm was 124,800 which I believe may be an overspeed.I am broken hearted at the total loss of my airplane ,and I do thank all of the guy's who have phoned me and e-mailed with messages of support and commiseration... they know who they are.....hopefully , something useful will come out of this that may help others not to experience the same problem, .....Malcolm