yes they are, or half that in cash it does say that, but as we all know this hobby is a $ pit so the company is going to get your $ no matter what.

so do you take the rebate for product or the cash?

don't forget the discount for $$ spent/promotion -20 per 150.

that sucking sound is my wallet being sucked into the computer.

for that price the nextar ARF sounds cheapest 379$ no computer radio but a basic sim instead its what I did and it worked for me .

I dont know whether the 4 ch. comp. radio is such a great deal. I have the 6 ch.for my other planes and it is great, wish I would have gotten the 7,since I didnt the 9 looks good if I am going too spend more $ on another radio it will be the top of the line its going to be a while before that happens,got a warbird to build.

I digress this is about saving some cash for someone new to flying