ok... I appreciate the info .... I just wish there was an air field where I live that I could go to and see the planes in action im tired.. of spending money on things that end up being decorations for my house lol.. with a little luck my house wont end up looking like a plane graveyard....

oh I also noticed these micro flyers... but I cant find any good solid info on them... are there any decent priced 4 channel arf electric trainers that are like the size of the little air hogs planes?