It isn't the point if the plane can or can not fly 3D,, I don't believe anyway,, to me the point is can I have a good time flying this plane? Can I do Anything at all with this plane and impress myself,, My Answer is YES,,, I have a blast with this plane and I have flown Countless models of all sizes and shapes, Hell I'm from the old school where you just glue anything together and then see if your experienced enough to fly it, I always welcome criticism or negatives about anything, it just adds more incite to my knowledge base for when people do ask about the planes pros and cons. all information and aspects from others are great..

As for me,, no one will ever convince me that this isn't a great plane to have a blast with, it is, and as far as the 3D stuff goes, I love the challenge of making this plane do all the 3D things other crafts can do with ease, try doing a few hovers with the Kadet, Cobra, Piper cub, Corsair, Ultimate Bipe, Ultra sport 40, 4 star 40, or the Eagle 63, just to name a few, then tell me your a 3D pilot, Not that I can do it either, but I sure try like hell, Anyone can buy a plane made for 3D and learn how to do it, now try doing 3D with DownT's cast iron Tub ,,, That would impress me....

I never answered the throws setting question for Naswifty,, I set my throws all the same,, low and high to above the high rates,,, and 0 Expo, Just in case I hit the switch by accident. but thats just me.... [>:] I suppose I can be a little stubborn or perhaps cocky about things, but thats why I buy lots of glue[8D] after all,, this thread is a blast to be a part of as well, I thank you all.

I say bring on everyones 2 or 3 cents worth, it all just adds to this long, beautiful, humorous, intense thread, Whats a good thread without a little controversy anyway.

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