Rat, like I said, if he's not watching out for me... If somebody wants to fly in a hay field out of town, he would need to make a decision. If some proud papa comes in wanting to buy his kid a $150 christmas present to get the kid out of his hair, that kid should NOT be on the same channels we use. It presents a danger to the clubs. Which last time I looked are places where people gather in large groups to play with model airplanes. Which is a bigger problem? Your RTF electric foamy going down in a parking lot or a giant scale P-51 going out of control during a club gathering?