Hey arrow. I said that SOME of the maneuvers won't (or cant) be done in full scale, I did mention that some are alreadymaking inroads such as prop hanging.... now your 15 seconds compared to 4 minutes fishing on a pond by J. Shulman y think are two different issues .... Also if anything flatspins or rolls at the rate my twister does.... I seriously doubt the pilot will not fade into high g oblivion