You tell them opjose, and to think that i have a hard time with a good kit what would i do with one from np and the price may be cheap and the plane may be alright but it is not like my cap 232 from great planes of course i had a friend build it and another friend build a giles 202 for me and to just look at them, they are so beautiful and i shake like hell when i fly them, my friend told me to use a little rudder on my vertical climb with my ys-160dz and i said i know but i cant stop my hand from shaking a few flights in and just my knees shake then im good for the day i calm down a bit but i have such a great time with a solid airplane and i do mean it is solid and so well made i think i will stick with great planes