If a Kaos is landing too fast for you then you are just not landing it right. I have a Kaos 60 that I bought from another flyer built from plans. It doesn't mind to land fast but it also doesn't mind landing at a very slow walk and still have full control. The plane also has a very good glide. Thats why I use the plane for testing/breaking in new 60 or 75 size engines. IF I get a deadstick, I know that I can glide the plane back to the run way and set it down in 1 piece. I don't really like the shape of the plane in the air so other than engine break in and testing I don't fly I much. [8D]