In looking at the Pentathlon, and knowing its roots, the flight characteristics described are in line with its "cousins".

So, it appears that things are changing some in thepattern community but i find it funny that only after people "wellknown" as CPLR or QQ Som. use these "canaizers" or fins or whatever do they become "acceptable by everyone else.

i guess, unfortunately, we are a pattern fold tend to follow the herd, yet when others go against the grain (ie voodoo express) we tend to frown upon them becuase of the "different looks".

SO, as judges do we still tend to grade the plane instead of the maneuver? I have heard comments in regards to biplanes along the lines of "it looks different and hard to judge".

Are you kidding me??? so anyways... are these new designs that push the limits of contemporary stye pattern ships.. ie Twister, integral, Scandlous, narlar bipe (adventure) at a disadvantage unless being flown by a "name" top performer?

Just some thoughts, not complaining or *****ing, whining, just wanting to spark some chatter to opening the minds of those who think that planes such as the Pentahlon , Twister , (any bipe).

Is is time to challenge the status quo of pattern design sch as when we move to "widebodies" to where we are now making the next step in performance rather than aesthetics?

Hmmm, looking forward to any thoughts..

Chuck