Rebsix, I understand you I do.. Thanks for writing your history. Everyone's is different for sure. And no I'm not a softie.. I did take it a little to personally. Especially the "owned" comment. Yes I had a myspace account. Had is the point so I know where the owned comes from. The TT trainer, I had thought it was just a bad expoxy job, but the epoxy was still there it just had all the balsa stuck to it. So yeah i'm inexperienced like I said, but I've got some stick time.. Yes G3 is great, but it's not like the same thing by no means. The main thing there is helping with stick orientation. Flying in wind on the sim is nothing like at the field and landings are alot easier when using 115v instead of glow fuel for sure. But my first flight with the instructor once he brought it up I was totally comfortable flying on my own. As for landing nahh, I did several low passes over the runway at a level flight before he would let me land on my own.. As for suggesting a plane, I don't have nor have seen the hanger 9 mustang trainer I thought that would be an alternative someone may want to start out with.. Not only is this sport about flying we all love our planes and toys. Guess it's like being 16 yeah you can drive a hyundai, but it's cooler if you've got something a little nicer that drives the same. I think great planes even has their own mustang now. The sukoi flight was 12 years in the making so I couldn't wait anymore !! Didn't buy it to fly 12 years ago and I knew it would be difficult to fly anyways.. For the little bit I had it up it flew like a dream!. It's not a sukhoi like you see in kits now.. It's got a pretty good dihedral so it doesn't even look like a true sukhoi except for the fusalage. It's a kit made by midwest.. or used to be.. So sorry fellas for taking it personal.. After my last posting a long time ago plus the other little thing it just hit me wrong. Like agexpert and his post, what's up with the pad my reciever with a trash bag. There's no reason so say something like that.. But I'll stop beating this dead horse... I used to participate in a well known corvette forum, but it ended up being a trash talking place I haven't been back to since. And there's nothing better than talking to people about something you may need help with. All I can do is share my story b/c someone just like me may read it and try the mustang and then they can make a post if it worked or didn't in their eyes, or the sim for that matter. So far it's been my best investment. So I'm here, this place is a wealth of knowledge which I aquire on a daily basis, and maybe, just maybe I'll have something to offer here on the airplane boards.. Like I said I'm hooked!