Hi Phil, Thanx for posting the videos. The twin rotor video did not play right for me. I tried it a couple of times. Your single-rotor bird's beak is way up there !!! Prop hanging definately can be challenging, but is a lot of fun. If gyro contests are ever developed, it will be the "slow fly" that separates the men from the boys. The Pitcairns had massive, thick rotor blades with plenty of coning. It did not have to "hang" at a severe angle to perform slow flight. High rotor blade solidity factor. From my understanding, rotor RPM was less than 250 revs per minute. Seems that model gyro flyers could benefit from thicker, larger blades in order to slow their flight. I was amazed to hear that many gyros are flying with rotor revs at or above 750 RPM !!! "Whatever works" is fine by me, but I really enjoy gyros because of their slow, highly manueverable flight characteristics. The slower, the better, in my book !!! MORE SLOW FLIGHT VIDEOS, PLEASE !!! Thanx again !!! Charlie Anderson