The first plane I had with the bad CG almost crashed. Luckily, I was able to save it and only put a few scratches on it. The second time I took it up, it was disaster. I inspected the entire plane before my second attempt on another day, but this time, it nose dived into the ground and that was it. The plane was no more. The plane itself was gone, but the hardware was still good. My second CMP model was a 36" park flyer. The first time, it appeared nose heavy and nose dived right into the ground. Scratched up the plane a little, but no major damage. The second flight on another day, I move the CG and this time, it was tail heavy. This time, it was disaster. The plane took off nice, but couldn't be controlled and crashed into 3 different pieces into the ground. I still have it sitting on my work table deciding if it's worth saving or not. I haven't touched it in a month. No biggie, I'm happy flying my Great Planes Sportster EP. It's my second Sportster and have flown it with no problems. I've stated in previous posts that after these two mishaps, I'm more than happy to pay a little more for a good plane, like those from Great Planes, than take a chance with a CMP model and crash it. Yes, I agree with you that not all of this is nitroplanes.com fault, but they bring in the products and they should make sure the products they sell are good before selling them. And their customer service is non-existent. I've had mishaps with my orders from towerhobbies.com in the past, but everytime I call them, they take care of me on the spot. There is absolutely no problem. I've called them a few times. Their customer service is 9 out of 10. Nitroplanes.com customer services is 1 out of 10. The only response you will get from them is if you post something on the forums and hope someone answers it.