I dont know how many turns my motors are i just buy 24 degree timing stock motors. I like them better because they go pretty fast and don't eat batteries. I have a custom built racer that i run a stock motor in and it will pull the front wheels and still goes almost 40mph thats why this stampede is bothering me. I have even used the gears and motor from it on my stampede and it still doesn't do good. I have also played with the clutch and again no luck..