I've been practicing with the Axe CP but haven't flown the real thing yet - I can get the Axe off of the ground and in somewhat of a stable hover for about 5 minutes on the simulator then I have to shut her down and go again. I'm going to give myself about another couple of weeks on tail in hover then start practicing on the real thing while I start simulation on nose in hover. It's snowing and cold in PA so I know I got about two months to really practice on the simulator becuase all I have is a small area inside to hover in.