well lets be honest, Mike, you probably miss-handled it before you even got it out of the packaging

sorry, couldnt resist

i probably shouldnt have been so vague in my response about plantraco. like Mike mentioned, when you get equipment from them that works right, it does work fine, but their customer service can be lacking. to me customer service is just as important as the equipment itself. makes me wonder how many people got semi-faulty equipment right out of the box that was claimed to be damamged by improper handleing. personally, i'd rather stick with Nick Leichtys equipment, its lighter and cheaper, and he's got the best customer service i've ever experienced.

just my .02

nick