i just modified the quake crawler, i made some universals for the tranny. now i just added 1'' more clearance in the center. thats a total of 4 inches without the tires. i have a variety of tire choices, jumbo kongs , hpi savage tires , cen gennesis, or the moabs xl 40,or even the lst1. all the parts are in except the motor, i orderd it from harbor freight so it will be here maybe next week. i do need to say CUDOES to CUSTOM RC CARS AND KILLER HOBBIES for their 'FAST' turn around on the order i placed with them, thanks again.