pat, I really don't understand your post. I have had nothing but poor experiences with the parkzone planes. I have however flown and watched a couple of buddies fly their typhoon and what a fun little plane that is. Wow that this is durrable. If I affended you in any way then I can honestly appologize. I have had about 50 flites on the p51 and I do think it was a fun flying little plane. I just did not care for the quality of the build, the way the two foam sides were simply taped together. I guess for the 160 dollar price tag I paid, it was a decent deal for a rtf plane. Just turned out to not be my cup of tee. I say this to every one else who flys pz. If you have had good luck with them, then great, continue to fly them. I think parkzones ideas are revolutionary to the r/c world. People, please don't let one persons poor experience (mine) voiced and act apon as an atack at you. If any were in my typings I insulted any one, then i am sorry. Pat, try to not be so simple minded, if I said somthing that upset you please don't make a critisism like you did, you are just instigating an argument. So please pat, lets try to be on good terms... ok. As far as have I flown anything, lol, yes I have pat, many many things. I am a private instructor here on Cape Cod MA, and have gotten many people interested in the hobby. Good luck and have fun.. Spence