Thanks for the replys. AV8TOR I did see your conversion in the Don't Forget Echo archives of this forum and I thought I had a 16cc also. I liked your description a cute little engine and it is. Oldtimer2 thanks for the info on the size I went to the echo site several times and all I could get was no records found until I saw the way you wrote it. I FORGOT THE HYPHEN. I have contacted Whacker about a hub and glo adapter and some other suppliers about parts found here on RCU. I hope to have a little gas glo up and running soon. Thanks again everyone this is my first post here and every one seems to be helpfull.