not flaps, you just said as much elevator as poss on a switch for harriers. i guess i could mix airbrake ( no flaps ) to ch2 to get that, but i'd rather have control over it even tho its then got almost 170 degrees movement. i have high and low rates set, but can i flick another switch to over ride the elevator rates to get full movement, and have it controled? FF8 btw... and 3D rate on ( high ) is still under 100%ATV thanks to long arms