Update, the blue and pink plane crashed on me..well not on me but I was doing my normal flying and it deadsticked (normal) and I was low and turned too sharp and lost the wind under the wings and she went in pretty hard..I could fix it but, I'm more of the buy another one kind of guy..so even though I said I wouldnt deal with them I got the thunder tiger .15 trainer..just finished it today...hope to test fly it maybe monday..it is a strange kind of build, but the servo tray is cut perfect for standard servos..hardware leaves a bit to be desired..but I had stuff from other planes so its done, I just have to put the switch in and balance it..3 channel elevator,ailerons, throttle...its a tail (skid) dragger no tail wheel and that .15 Magnum XL should throw it off the ground in 20 feet or less...Rog