Jim I think we're on the same page. The Hobbico people were nice to me and they eventually sent the replacement parts I needed, but they lack intimate knowledge of their products. The helis must be made somewhere else, somewhere far away so many of these products are as new to them as they are to us. I have heard they've replaced the Axe CP servos with better units so they're trying. I don't begrudge them I'm just sharing my experiences. I agree it is odd they'd admit to their own products inferiority and further agree on a recommendation of a controller from another company. WOW! [X(] Anyway good luck with the new controller. [sm=thumbs_up.gif]