ORIGINAL: khodges
RVman--- look in the AMA magazine or go online to their plans service. Model Airplane News has a special issue about every year with about 20 pages of plans available. Every R/C mag out there has ads for plans.
Why would you want plans to build a H-9 Showtime 50, when there's plans for a hundred similar and better planes. If you want the ARF, buy the ARF. I'm not knocking ARF's, I have several. I repair them when they break, but I sure don't want to build one like them.
I look at it like beef. If I'm in a hurry, I hit the BK drive-thru and get a burger. It's okay, and fills me up; if I want a great piece of meat, I go to the market, take it home and cook it myself; it tastes better, and it's done to MY satisfaction. Takes longer, there's some degree of skill involved cooking it. Why would I go to BK and ask them for a patty and bun, take it home and throw it in the microwave? That's what building a kitted ARF would be like, IMO.
A case in point is the ARF I'm "building" now. I couldn't find the kit I wanted of the plane, so I buy the ARF (Cox/Pica WACO YMF). There isn't much on the plane I haven't re-done to make it closer to the original Pica kit that Cox "re-engineered" to mass market. I've beefed up weak structure, rebuilt pieces that for some unknown reason were modified AWAY from the scale appearance (wingtips, for instance). I could have built the original kit in less time than it's taken me to modify this ARF.
In the beef case i can't agree. You wouldn't go to BK for the materials to make your burger, just for the PLAN to make that burger.
I simply want the plans so i can build that plane with my style of building, with my glue, my covering, my wood etc. Most arf designs fly very well, they just aren't built the best.
With your arf waco, if you could have bought those plans, and built it from scratch there would have been no big deal modding the wingtips, beefing up weak wood etc. Does this make sense?