Citation x, exactly how much gas does it take? Tee Hee, just kidding. My goal ( I think goals are good ) is to harier/hover "pretty" good by the end of this season. When I say pretty good, I don't mean rock steady hovering for a full tank of gas with multiple tail touches. But fairly low, fairly long hovering, where the guys at the field will say, "Hey look, Ben's hovering!". Only I know how good a pilot I am right now ( let's face it, you have to be a pretty good pilot, to set a goal like hovering in a year! If your still having to "think about it" all the time, just to fly around and land, your probably setting yourself up!) But hopefully I'm not too overconfident, and as I said before, the worst that can happen is I'll improve as a pilot!............Now tork-rolls, well, that's another story, and in my opinion, another milestone altogether, I wouldn't lump that goal in with hovering ( although it is a hovering manuver) to me it seems at least 10x harder than hovering alone!