Hossfly, I know what you are saying, but what is the point of joining UMA if they do the same as AMA. Most people ***** about AMA. I can see why they would join UMA and not be affiliated with AMA, but why carry UMA if you have AMA? A lot of flyers are worried about the dues. I can't see them paying double. I know the field is not sanctioned by ama, but if it is covered by ama, then a UMA flyer will not be welcome there. Also a UMA flyer will not be allowed to fly AMA sanctioned contests unless he is AMA also. So what is UMA going to do for anyone? I guess I dont see it. If they worked together so you could have one or the other, I see it as being a huge plus. AMA would not let this happen because a huge number of people would join UMA and not pay AMA dues.