to rckin i made my first flight a couple weeks ago you donot the feeling until you do it the instructor told me to do it even if i went across runway thanks to this plane it was airborne in about 10 ft had one excellent pilot watching thanks for his encouragement this was at a flyday at out field thanks for the patience and help from a great planemodelores from this club it is located in south ARKANSAS they have had a lot of patience with 59 yr old who has wanted to this several decades thanks for your information and help from rc universe