I don't want to go get a U-can, because I fly with a club that doesn't have many members and there is another guy at my field with a U-can, I just don't want to have two of the same planes out there every weekend. I appreciate the info on the SE and the Pizzaz. Do you guys know anything about these planes offered up by Modest-Master, above? They look pretty cool, but I don't know how big and what size engine. I have heard lots of great things about the SE, but not so much about the Pizzaz. I'm still looking though and don't know what I'm going to do just yet. Hopefully there will be more responses to this thread for me to make a final decision. Thanks again.