I'd say a Toysport from OFE or a Mean Machine as far as glass goes for 12 cell...or 4s Lipo. I can't tesitfy to the Toysport, although I'd love to build one up. I love the looks of the hull. I can say that I have "backed" my Meanie down to the mid 40's and can corner @ WOT all day. It's a blast and has my hands shaking every time I take off.