ORIGINAL: John Casey

'Roberts works well but is usually CORRUPTED OR BY PASSED if the person at the head of the meeting
is not familiar with the rules or does not have the will to enforce them."-----gremlin

You hit the nail right on the head there Gremlin, I would also add ,
and/or ignoring roberts rules of order altogether.

Now what about "the opposition?

So how do we know or find out if..."the Opposition" is:
The "true majority"..... in an issue of contention....... or the "disruptive"minority.? as red would say...

I guess that would occur after a vote is taken.... to find out who .....the true majority is.

Disruptive members:????

example: A supposedly "disruptive..member" motions to paint both ends of the runway white, the motion is
seconded, discussed,then voted on, and his motion passes, the club has voted to paint the ends of the runway white.
(visiblility reasons)
Are not the "unruly disruptive members" those who Opposed him(and lost)and were shown to be...... the minority?
If this members motions are supported by majority vote repeatedly,
are not the "constantly opposing members".......really the disruptive ones?

If a member raises his hand and the Chair refuses to
reconize him....... is not the chair violating his rights as a club member to be heard?