okay, thanks for the help guys.

those planes ^^^ look interesting and somthing along the lines of what i was after as for teh instructor there inst much in my area and the "nearest club" is an hours drive away [:'(] so im kinda of left on my own - any the only "sim" experiance ive had is with microsoft combat simulator just for fun

And that bad experiance i had before was with a ARF extrafun xl by modelengines - it had a dodgey motor which i didnt know until it was too late, slowly was burning out, not enough speed/lift o when i even tried basic things like steering with the rudder it banked extermly quick /sharp and nose dived - few more attempts at tryign to get it to fly and then the motor was stuffed.

Anyway, im going to research those planes now a bit more ( the dolphin and the tiger stick).

Thanks for the advice