good points... im going with the tug! j/k lol. ripple chop most likely, or it will be by the time im done with it hehe. no racing here, just bashing. easy is always nice! but im a greace monkey so w/e if i had to i would take the ouboard apart... as for chasing i have a real boat i am taking on vaca with me, 14ft fiberglass with a evinrude 9.9 (15 horse carb) and have my pco card so chasing not a rpoblem... i think im going with the sv27 boys buying one bright and early tomorrow morning... pce out and thanks for the help ron and hydro.