Blade killer, I'm sorry if I offended you with my comments. I most assuredly didn't mean to. I read everything you wrote and looked at the pic you posted. I just couldn't make out what you were trying to express with the pic. I've tried everything my Arkansas engineer mind can conjure up and still was having CG problems. I really appreciate the fact that you own and fly a HB FP and genuinely read your post with great interest. I want to learn to be a good RC heli pilot and am glad there are folks like you who will post their experiences to help me along that path. But at the same time, I'm hard headed and tend to learn things the hard way by my own experience. I think things through and figure out the best approach and go for it. Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts and pointers with the problems I'm having. Sincerely.

Restinpieces, I think we must be brothers that got separated a birth or something. I always order more than I need for the same reason as you. I hate to buy a $1.29 part and pay $11.99 shipping for it. Some of those outfits seem to make more money on shipping and handling than on the part itself. And don't get me started on Ebay. Sell the part cheap and pad the shipping. That makes me so mad I've almost stopped looking on Ebay. Anyway, I'll be saving up to buy that barebones HB FP but in the mean time I'm going to do the wire mod on my flybar paddle frame and fly that little chopper for all it's worth. I think I'm about ready to take it to my horse pasture and fly it up high and with lots of action. Surely I can learn to hover at 50 feet just as easily as at 5 feet. If not, then oh well and I'll be glad for that barebones chopper standing by. Have you found a good deal on sim software yet restinpieces? I looked on Ebay and found a few good deals but it's a crap shoot since most of the good deals were all used stuff. Hell, I guess it's all a crap shoot on Ebay. Good luck buddy.