I had a great flight today. First day without the training gear. Took off did a little fast forward flight with some nose and tail in. flew up to around 80 ft. a couple big circles. then my landing was a little rough broke a blade grip. I knew I should of stocked up on a few when I was at the Hobby shop the other day. Everyone is right, the training gear actually holds you back. yea it's ok for learning to hover but for flying forget it. I started with them on. did a few 10ft hovers and a couple prilouttes then took them off to see how well she really flies. I'm very impressed.