That is some awesome flight training advice osterizer. But it seems so far away from where I'm at. I'm still just trying to get a stable hover. It's beginning to become apparent to me that the reason I may be having so much difficulty is due to ground effect. The heli seems to be much less erratic when I get it off the ground a couple or three feet. But even with that it's tough keeping it in control in the garage. This time of year here it starts to get windy, so it's not often I get days where I would dare take it outside where there's more room to maneuver. But I guess that's what I'm going to have to try and do. Even then, it won't be long before it's too cold to fly outside and then I'm basically stuck in the basement for about 6 months, unless I can find another place to practice. I know I'll get there, it just seems like a long way from now.