Mark, how is the landing without flaps? I ordered flaps but do to a screw up between banks on the money transfer i won't be getting them. My turbine version had flaps and they worked well. I'm considering doing mine bungee lauch only which will take the weight down quite a bit. We have a good size stable of bungee/edfs from sniper to Aeronaut panther. I can always add gear later... Doug