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Old 10-18-2007 | 07:12 AM
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Ja, muß ich auch mitstimmen, da wenn Man viel mit Panzer Arbeitet, lernt auch etwas Deutsche sprache dabei. Deutsche Panzer des 2. Weltkrieges sind sehr interesant und wird heufig gebaut.

Think this question has been amply aswered. I have to get my wife to translate the Russian for me. Panzer translated means armor, but generally it refers to a tank. Kampf is battle or fighting, so Panzerkampfwagen would actually translate to armored fighting vehicle (AFV). Modern usage has changed many meanings and altered the basic ideas of the words.

Incidentally, did the news get here (just got back from Germany yesterday) that a Leo II was lost in the Rheine river? Human error. The tank was running, being transported on a barge across the river, when a crewman got in and accidentally shifted into reverse and dropped the tank off into the river. they still have not found him.

Bill