I'm convinced it's something I'm doing wrong - I've seen too many videos of the e-starter flying perfectly for it to be the plane. I double checked to make sure everything is square on the plane - it is, I think I'm going to initialize my dx7 and start over. When I say turn with ailerons I mean bank with them the give some up elevator, when flying level and move the right stick left or right it tries to bank but the nose goes up also - it may be something I have set up wrong on the controller because the pilot I let fly it has been flying for a long time, I think he could fly a brick (even if it had parkzone electronics in it).