thank you guys very much. thats what i love about this site and this hobby. if i have a question it is awnsered for every senario. i will try this things. i do use a chicken stick that i made because when i use the starter it digs grooves in to my spinner and slipps off so i figure man power will do. but once it has flown it dosent reverse i guess im putting to much prime. im useing a #8 glow plug that my LHS guy said to use and that that was the one installed on the motor. thanks again guys you are the best...