ORIGINAL: STLPilot
Doesn't really matter what the parameters are in detail, we have the general outline. AMA Park Pilot members pay $29. They get 500k and an additional 2.5mm of insurance if they are utilizing an AMA club site. What else do you need to know? You charge them what you think you can get them for and even if you want them in the first place. But don't worry, they will find a new home with or without your generous pricetag.
Bill is looking for an answer that his calculator can't figure out for him.
stl, you also wrote (#53):
Welp, just got he mail, my DVP was nice enough to send me the entire Park Pilot program package and now it's time to goto work.
BTW you will not be able to add Park Pilots to current AMA clubs, you are going to have to form a new club with it's own set of bylaws.
Now, you say you have the program courtesy of Dave Mathewson, who now seems to prefer "leaking" the news rather than formal notification to the membership -- just great to look forward to for the next three years
-- so there should be no speculation and fabricated structures in whatever you say. So why do you not just cover the details and forget the emotional rantings?
As I understand, from your emotional ranting twists from post to post, to obtain the half-price AMA membership the park flier has to belong to a separate club, yet such club may locate on the same facility with a regular club. If such is true the many different situations that factor into such equation can and must only be resolved at the club levels. If AMA should attempt to intervene, then AMA will only lose much more than they could ever hope to gain. While the FEDs can buy state governments with money, I don't think AMA has enough assets to BUY the RIGHTS of local clubs, especially those clubs that have large vested interests in their flying facility.
My main club has members that play with park fliers, yet also tear up the sky with those 25-40 %ers. OTOH, I have noticed that those that only play with park-fliers in the 2# or less range do not stay long with the club.
In post # 58, I, rather tongue-in-cheek, proposed the following:
Go ahead and Help set up the parkfliers club. Make an iron-clad contract stating days, hours, etc of operation, work responsibilities, any details of dual membership such as NO voting rights in the main club, and a host of other details between the clubs. Then charge the pfer-club annual rent and/or lease fees equal to at least a year's main club dues, for each member in the pfers-club.
Now, that is no longer tongue-in-cheek. If a pfer club wants to operate on the facility that I have spent 12 years working to build, and financed a great part of that operation, you can bet your rear-end that I will do everything in my power to assure that such group provides a neat profit to the host club that OWNS such 50 acres that I provided. [>:]
OTOH, if such a group wishes to locate on an adjoining 40 acres, and will restrict their operations to 27 MHz, 2.4 GHz, or such, then we just maybe could do a less restrictive business. As stated above the pfers will have to solve their own problems on the local level, and my experience with the recreational modelers leads me to believe that forced organization will be a real chore. I personally will assist them however not like I do for the serious modeler in CL, FF, and RC.
So there is my stance on the program, and my suggested fee schedule.