RE: j3 cub
actually it came highly, highly, recommended by every plane person I talked to as an excellant first plane, the sign on it said great trainer! and I read a few magazine articles about what a great beginner planes they where. But if they are not a beginner plane I must have done very well to fly it for 20 minutes, doing touch and go's and a few tricks, unsupervised and my first time out. Until I lost sight of it that is!