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Sierra,
Thank you for the input, I looked at the links, they look slightly different than the ones I have, the can on mine seems to be smaller in dia and longer. Besides they cost me $20.00 a piece, maybe I got ripped off. I have put the battery pack on the cycler maybe this might help any more suggestion welcome. Forgot tried the 8-4 prop and the 10-5, and 11-4...