Thanks for all the input. Evan=RCU pretty much hit on my plan. I do not intend to learn to fly on this. It is more of an it's here now the price may be right and if I put it up on a shelf it will remind me what I am spending hours a day practicing on the sim for. I'm not completely crazy. I am planning to build a 30 or 50 for practice over the summer. No 50s available over here, so am probably going to have to stick with a 30 as I am going to be here for two years figure I should stiuck with birds that the parts are readily available for over here. The inspection for this helicopter has been put off twice due to weather as the owner insists I see it fly (his son at the controls) and fly it assisted before we talk final price or if I am even going to buy it Ther Seller is supposed to be bringing two birds. One is the high dollar 90, the other I know even less about, except that it is "cheaper", This is sort of my retirement gift, and I don't retire for one to two more years, so... I have some time to learn. Retirement gift was supposed to be an near complete 27 Dodge Sedan, but I took to long making payment arrangements from over here and someon else bought it. Win some, lose some! Again thanks for all the input. Taking a camera along will bring back pics and a better description later today (Sunday)