As a follow up, I have now flown (hovered with adult supervision, hehehe) this bird through four tanks of fuel and I love it. I have requested the LHS find me a used 30 size so I won't spend as much if I try to practice when I don't have my trainer with me and crash (which is about half the weekends because he is off competing, last weekend was Taiwan (anybody want to tell me what was going on in Taiwan?). I still don't know his name, but he has been able to get through our joint language barrier fairly well (reminder he's Korean). I used the X-Cell web site to try to figure out what I ended up with and I came up with a Tempest with a Stratus head. Not sure why it was done, but that's what it matches up to. I am also continuing to practice daily with Real Flight and my two electric birds. Once again I want to thank the folks on this forum for all their help. Doing pretty good with hovering from all directions including nose in so hope to actually be flying (don't know about 3D) by summer.