I also used the concept of when learning tail out hovering when the heli goes left push the stick left and so on, the one thing that does give me some probs is everything in my head goes backwards and when I want to land I throttle up [X(], but getting that figured out now. One of the biggest parts of starting to hover tail out is being able to turn your heli around in place without it running off in any direction, thats what I had probs with at first, everytime I'd try to get turned around it'd shoot to the right and crash, but now I can hold a hover and spin around and around, try to get the turning around part first, you will never learn to hover tail out without being able to control the spin\turn, but after a little tail out hovering everything else will kick it and then it really starts to get fun to fly your heli.