Hey guys,

I have been flying for two months now, and I can handle the heli very well. I am able to hover in a foot and a half by a foot and a half box, and do figure eights in a twenty by twenty foot room. I have quite a bit stick time, and feel very comfortable with the heli.

The problem is that I do not have a Sim, or the means to be able to run one. I am looking for a good way to learn nose in, without crashing my HBK2. Should I get a Lama, or a CX2 or something to help me learn?

Thanks for the help guys!

Get training gear and walk through [link=http://www.dream-models.com/eco/flying-index.html]Radd's exercises[/link] in different orientations.

One tip. When I was struggling (I struggle less now) with nose in, I would find that I could hover an entire pack if I only did nose in. But the moment I tried a different orientation, even tail in, I would lose it.
Now my warm up exercise is to hover tail in until I am comfortable and stable. Then side in for a bit. then tail in. then other side in. then nose in. then side in. Switching it up.

Practice, practice, practice. Let us know how you do.
Vince

Learning the 'stick' on a Lama or CX2 will help learn nose in on your HBK2 but why would you do that? A CX2 costs about $189. A crash is a crash. Seems your HBK2 is the same price if not a little cheaper than the CX2.

Before I spent $189 on a CX2 (I have one along with my CP2) I would go to xheli.com and buy the $19.99. You get a usb controller along with some pretty good sim software.


I can fly the hell out of my CX2 and have tons of fun without hovering nose in.

Although I've only been in this hobby since November, I fail to see the importance of Nose In Hovering....EXCEPT to impress other pilots who can't do nose in.

KenSkid

when flying circuits and unintentionally find yourself face-to-face with your heli, you'll be glad you learned how to fly nose-in. while NOT a requirement, I believe it is a basic skill a heli pilot should be able to do.

Thats what I thought, dodo. I want to eventually learn 3D stuff, and nose in is an ability I will need to have in my arsenal.

Like I said...I can fly my CX2 in circles....8s....towards me....away from me etc...w/o thinking of "hovering" nose-in. I guess I just don't see the need to look face to face with my heli for more than a second or two.

Like I said, I'm pretty new but have never had to stop my heli in mid flight...stare down the heli in the face and start hovering nose in. Yes, I'm sure if I want to fly inverted "nose-in" I should learn normal "nose-in" first....but that's down the road a bit.

Nose-in is easy if you just fly the tail instead of the nose when it's facing you . If the gyro is set right you shouldn't have to worry about the rudder too much anyway . For right stick I actually learned by just thinking to move the sticks in the direction the heli was drifting when nose-in . If the heli starts to lean left , then move the stick in the same direction and it will stablize to a hover . For/aft is always the same no matter the orientation , it's always going to go forward with pitch down and backwards with pitch up . It's whatever feels comfortable for you , it just takes practice . Without a sim I'd suggest just flying out from your position and turn the heli around at a comfortable altitude that you have room to recover . I flew out about 15 yards or so and piro'd around at about 30 feet up . As it was facing me I'd pitch up and try to keep it in a hover at that altitude . If I got confused I'd simply spin the tail around quickly . That did well for me .

I do nose in for the same reason I do tail in---------- it's fun!

Happy Flying,
Don

flyinsolo, Sounds like you're doing well. My suggestion would be to fly the heli the way you are comfortable, while you are doing your fiqure 8s just put a little more turn into it so you are flying straight at yourself, then turn away and continue with the fiqure 8s. As you feel more and more comfortable just start to slow the heli down. You will naturally start to feel more comfortable with it. Once you feel good with that, then stop it and hover nose in for a second or two, then continue flying. It won't take long before it feels normal at any direction. The main thing is have fun and don't concentrate to much on one thing. I agree with what vince touched on, if you just start flying nose in, then spin it around, you'll get disoriented with it being tail in, so take your time.

I also used the concept of when learning tail out hovering when the heli goes left push the stick left and so on, the one thing that does give me some probs is everything in my head goes backwards and when I want to land I throttle up [X(], but getting that figured out now. One of the biggest parts of starting to hover tail out is being able to turn your heli around in place without it running off in any direction, thats what I had probs with at first, everytime I'd try to get turned around it'd shoot to the right and crash, but now I can hold a hover and spin around and around, try to get the turning around part first, you will never learn to hover tail out without being able to control the spin\turn, but after a little tail out hovering everything else will kick it and then it really starts to get fun to fly your heli.