Good point missleman, my original post about the cheap trainer started here in the beginner forum so i just added to it, i guess i should have started a new one for this. This will be i think my 20th or 21st plane, so no, i'm not a beginner, maybe i will repost this in another forum. Tower order is on the way with my final parts to get here up in the air, can't wait, and don't worry i will use the utmost care with this plane/engine combo, and healthcare is free in canada incase something nasty happens.