Well crap it may be but I bought them from Towers Scratch and dent and only paid $40 for each of the Axe EZ and $60 for the Axe CP-L that only had a damaged box So I think Its better than just crap LOL I have had 2 back surgeries this year from a head on collision (wasnt my fault and he had no insurance) so I like my cheap crap...lol I plan on a Trex but why crash a good Heli and really be upset. But anyway Im going to keep trying and keep crashing until I get the hang of it. I did order the Bell hiller rotor setup and a futaba headlock gyro for the CP and I have the esc for both motors from my planes so I will try this setup and maybe have better luck. Thanks