gaRCfield, have you checked into SPADS? they are planes made of coroplast and raingutter downspout. there is a wholr thread on them. when I got back into flying, I crashed my balsa trainer twice, then I found spads. now my two boys and I can crash and not be out a whole lot and they are quick and easy to build. they can be built for as little as 20 bucks an airframe plus engine and electronics. alot of the parts come from the hardware store. I know where your coming from about building and I love to build but 3 to 4 weeks of that , then fly and crash, nah spads are for me. check out the thread on this forum and "spadtothebone"